1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Hello? 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Mom, this is Colin from Major Robert Friend. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 Okay, hold on two minutes. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Okay, go ahead. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Thank you, are you here? 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Hi. 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Hello, Mr. Brown. 8 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Yes. 9 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,000 I'm Larry Warriors from Akron with the Blind Crosser investigation. 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Yes, how are you? 11 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Good, how have you been? 12 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Oh, I've been fine. 13 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:26,000 We noticed quite a release yesterday in the Associated Press. 14 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Were you responsible for that? 15 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,000 No, that came out of the Security of Washington. 16 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Oh, out in Washington? 17 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Right. 18 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Oh, what do you know about it? 19 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,000 What do I know? 20 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Washington. 21 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 I read it in the paper like you did. 22 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,000 Is that really true? 23 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,000 What's this? 24 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,000 I'm not even sure I saw the same one you saw. 25 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Yeah, well it was in the first one. 26 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:52,000 A short release in the Springfield newspaper last night. 27 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,000 Uh-huh. 28 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Well, look, Major, I have Mark and Dusso who is with the committee now. 29 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,000 We've formed a new committee, the Blind Crosser Investigations Committee. 30 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Yes. 31 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:07,000 And Mark is on the other end of the line and I want to introduce him to you. 32 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,000 Mark, take over there, boy. 33 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Hello, Mr. Major, for it? 34 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Yes, how are you? 35 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Uh, you see, you're not responsible for this release. 36 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,000 No, uh... 37 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Do you have any knowledge of it at all? 38 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Well, yes, I knew that a release was coming out. 39 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,000 I see. 40 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Uh, in other words, did you cooperate with this release? 41 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Uh, yes, I provided them with some of the information. 42 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,000 I see. 43 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 What is the statistical information? 44 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Uh, are you serious about this? 45 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,000 What is? 46 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,000 Are you serious about it? 47 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Are you serious about what? 48 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,000 I mean, about, uh, do you feel that this is a release that you had to put out yourself? 49 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Well, I, like I said, I haven't seen the complete release, but, uh, I know that all of these statistical information came from me, that's for sure. 50 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,000 I see. 51 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Uh, Major, are you still continuing the investigation? 52 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Yes. 53 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,000 And under what name are you continuing now? 54 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 What do you mean? 55 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Well, uh, what is the, what do you have to do for? 56 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 What was the, uh, still project movebook? 57 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Still project movebook. 58 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,000 That's right. 59 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Well, that's good. 60 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,000 And I'm glad you are. 61 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Absolutely. 62 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Uh, we have been getting an average of about three reports a week up here in the last couple of months. 63 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 We've had almost a flat. 64 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,000 Really? 65 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Yeah. 66 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 The worst is the freeze because, uh, I don't recall any of this. 67 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,000 It reached us. 68 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Well, this is probably true. 69 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Uh, do you feel, Major, that, uh, some of these press releases are, are interfering with, uh, people wanting to give you the reports? 70 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Well, absolutely no, because, uh, he promised to put in there a statement, uh, asking the people to report them to the nearest air force installation. 71 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 But this did not appear. 72 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Well, it's supposed to have appeared. 73 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Uh, it disreleased, seems to, uh, imp, uh, imprived. 74 00:02:50,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Uh, that you know, are able to, uh, to investigate and diagnose, uh, all the way to 2%, 1.94% of them are unidentified now as to, uh, about 20% back in the 1947-1952 era. 75 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,000 Uh, this is true. 76 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,000 To what do you attribute? 77 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Actually, actually, uh, approximately, to only approximately 2% of these things, uh, are left unidentified. 78 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 I see. 79 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Uh, Major, we noticed in the release here that, uh, there seemed to be some sort of an admission, uh, in the way it was stated, uh, of the existence of the UFO, by stating that the technology of the UFO has not exceeded ours as to the state. 80 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Now, do you feel that that was an admission by the Washington office? 81 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Do I read it right now in the paper for you? 82 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,000 No, you go ahead and read it. 83 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Okay, it said, it said its, uh, project blue ball has turned up no evidence of any UFOs, represented technological advances beyond the range of our present-day scientific knowledge. 84 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Or that any were extra-extra-terrestrial vehicles under intelligent controls. 85 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Right, there has been no evidence to indicate this. 86 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Not to us. 87 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,000 I see that. I, I realize that. 88 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,000 Right. 89 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Uh, but, uh, from, from all reports, I'll say, for instance, if, uh, if you take the stand that there are no such things, then, of course, this statement is true. 90 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:20,000 If the stand is though that there is, is still indefinite, and you still have a 2% pile of unidentified. 91 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,000 Yes, for sure. 92 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Uh, the things that aren't unidentified sometimes, uh, outperform anything that has, uh, been seen on Earth. Isn't that right? 93 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Well, we say outperformed, uh, what you mean, you see, for instance, uh, when you start talking about performance, you're talking in relative terms. 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,000 In other words, if you're talking, you're talking relative to what? 95 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Well, in other words, you say anything that we've ever seen, after all, that we have, uh, uh, outfamilites in the dashing around the area is around 18,000 miles per hour. 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 I know, but they... 97 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:00,000 They have, uh, the Earth's gathering, and they have a sphere at around 50,000. 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Well... 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:07,000 They do this sort. So, you see, when you say outperforming, you, what she talks about, outperforming craft? 100 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Well, let me say it this way then. I can be more specific. 101 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Okay. 102 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Uh, I realize that, uh, in the case of meteors, or meteorites, whatever, meteors, and, uh, also of satellites, this is true, but, uh, the satellite picture has only entered, uh, in since 1957. 103 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:34,000 And the, uh, the Project Blue Book, or its predecessor, started sometime in 1947, and, uh, supersonic aircraft were not prevalent, uh, you know, as prevalent then as they are now. 104 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,000 The B-58 course travels at high-speed now. 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,000 Absolutely. 106 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:48,000 And, uh, I say that, uh, relative, I think, is sure you're right about that, because it's relative to a person who, and it's subjective to the person who is reporting these things. 107 00:05:48,000 --> 00:06:00,000 And, uh, if they've been reported to cover, I remember one balloonist, uh, back in the, uh, White Sands area, and two other technical men down there, I think one of them was Conrad Wade. 108 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:09,000 And, uh, that one was, uh, was, uh, was tricked by the auto-light and stopwatch at something around 18,000 miles per hour. 109 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Now, we had no satellite in the sky at that time, and we had no aircraft that could even approach at kind of a speed. 110 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Now, what do they, what would they mean by this kind of a statement then? 111 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,000 In other words, this base statement is based strictly on the fact that they feel that there is no UFO. 112 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Uh, no, I think that what he means there is this, that, uh, all of those things which we have identified. 113 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Now, it's just counting to 2%. Uh, all of these, uh, objects that have been identified have at least not been operating outside of a realm, which we can explain. 114 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Oh, I see. 115 00:06:49,000 --> 00:07:00,000 In other words, he's talking about, say, his velocity, sitting talking to say, maybe, possibly, uh, meteoritic, or, uh, he might even be talking satellite velocity. 116 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,000 Oh, I see. 117 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 Major, help you. 118 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Perfect. 119 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:18,000 I was going to say that another thing to visit the characteristics of even the other nanobiotic, uh, have not exceeded these limits. I think this is what he means. 120 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,000 These limits. 121 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:28,000 In other words, when I say these limits, I've talked about the limits of things that we've had in regions reported in previous sites that have been explained. 122 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 I see what you mean by explained, yes. 123 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Major, have you had any, uh, new information that would be of interest to our group here? 124 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Uh, actually, I haven't had any, uh, any, uh, information reported to me recently. Uh, say it wasn't exciting to explain Minnesota, but, uh, all of the information is in there. 125 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Yet I had a phone call from the gentleman out there, but, uh, yet I haven't gotten the reports, seriously. 126 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,000 Uh, look, do you remember Ken Pertre? Right, he's talked with you a number of times from WCUE. 127 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Oh, right. 128 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Yeah, I'll see you soon. 129 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Oh, there? Oh, yes, yes, yes, sure. 130 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Uh, do you mind, uh, sir, if we share this with him? 131 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Yeah, what? 132 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Oh, our conversation. 133 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,000 Oh, no, I don't want to hear anything of it. 134 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 I'm not going to hear anything of it. 135 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Fine. Uh, Mark, uh, is there anything else that you want to chat with the major about, uh, I don't seem to have anything here that is right for me. 136 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:40,000 I thought that I had something in mind here, but I kind of, uh, I was just wondering, major, uh, in all these explained reports, the 98% that you're talking about, I mean, I'm not trying to be facetious when I ask this. 137 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Yes. 138 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Uh, what about the people that were involved? Are they convinced that your, uh, mind are, uh, correct? 139 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,000 I can't answer for those people. It comes off too hard to answer for all of the people in 98%. 140 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 And that's exactly the... 141 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 So you start talking about 98% of the cases? 142 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 I know, Miss. 143 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:05,000 What is this way? Uh, I would say the majority of them are satisfied. 144 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Well, that's exactly the question I was asking, Major, is, uh, it's pretty hard to set yourself up, you know, as a fact-finding body and then coming out with such an opinion which would cover 98% of the cases. 145 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:24,000 And that makes it a pretty tough proposition, you know, to, uh, for me to, uh, to swallow. I'm not swallowing. 146 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Actually, I agree with you there, but actually, uh, you want to, no matter what disease you take, you want to find it awfully hard to convince the most charged people you know that you're so... 147 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:35,000 Yes. 148 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,000 So, uh, say, say, watch your anything, you like that. 149 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Well, uh, uh, any position that you take, that you will have a great problem with that, of being with minority. 150 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 Yes, I see. I know what you mean. 151 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Yes. 152 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Well, really, Major, it has been grand talking with you again, though, with, uh... 153 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 Yes, it's been grand talking to you. 154 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000 So, uh... 155 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,000 I follow it. 156 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Doing real well. This is Doug here. I haven't been in touch with him too recently, but, uh... 157 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 You haven't talked with him recently either? 158 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:14,000 I haven't talked with him. I haven't talked with George, though. Well, he's a very good guy, which I appreciate very much. 159 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Uh, he is, uh, still quite active in the field. 160 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Well, I'm sure he is. 161 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,000 So, uh, just follow it, Major. 162 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Uh, actually, do you notice that I told you we had reorganized here? 163 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Yes. 164 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Uh, Mr. Poggowitz, uh, uh, did, uh, register with the state and took over the old organization, say. 165 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:43,000 But, uh, I would say about 96% of the original research group, uh, came along with the new research. 166 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,000 But Mr. Poggowitz is still quite active, and we're happy that he is. 167 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,000 No, that's fine. 168 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:53,000 So, um, and as a parting word, Major, I'm glad to have met you from such a long distance. 169 00:10:53,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Uh, I think, I think, uh, I remember your name, uh, didn't Captain Smith talk to you? 170 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Yes, he did. Yes, he did. 171 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Well, once again, tonight, talking with you, and make it a good night, then. 172 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Right, of course. 173 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Okay, good night.